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		<title>By: nethy</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/11/03/so-you-want-to-learn-how-to-program/comment-page-1/#comment-3747</link>
		<dc:creator>nethy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I added  MeasureIt &amp; Screengrab so I still owe ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I added  MeasureIt &amp; Screengrab so I still owe <img src='http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/11/03/so-you-want-to-learn-how-to-program/comment-page-1/#comment-3744</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just added ColorZilla and &lt;a href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1595&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Remove Cookie(s) for Site&lt;/a&gt;.  That saves a lot of time when testing DI - I can log out and remove everything from my cart and all session info with just a right-click.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just added ColorZilla and <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1595" rel="nofollow">Remove Cookie(s) for Site</a>.  That saves a lot of time when testing DI &#8211; I can log out and remove everything from my cart and all session info with just a right-click.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/11/03/so-you-want-to-learn-how-to-program/comment-page-1/#comment-3743</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Nethy.  I&#039;ll add &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shopify.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shopify&lt;/a&gt; to that list for e-commerce sites. 

Btw - ColorZilla is AWESOME, can&#039;t believe I never knew about that!  Totally adding that to the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Nethy.  I&#8217;ll add <a href="http://www.shopify.com/" rel="nofollow">Shopify</a> to that list for e-commerce sites. </p>
<p>Btw &#8211; ColorZilla is AWESOME, can&#8217;t believe I never knew about that!  Totally adding that to the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Scott.  You can also sign up for their affiliate program and get a small affiliate kickback for each domain.  We used to do that, but I&#039;ve been lazy lately and keep forgetting to click that link first before buying a domain name :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Scott.  You can also sign up for their affiliate program and get a small affiliate kickback for each domain.  We used to do that, but I&#8217;ve been lazy lately and keep forgetting to click that link first before buying a domain name <img src='http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about that.  Just approved a few that were stuck in the SPAM filter.</description>
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		<title>By: nethy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nethy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ve been triggering your spam filter.</description>
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		<title>By: nethy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nethy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adam,

Interesting read. I enjoyed it. I bookmarked several links and installed Measureit. Very useful. (I would also add &lt;a href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/271&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;colorzilla&lt;/a&gt; to the list. Amazing how you always get some useful bits from articles like this. 

It&#039;s a tricky subject you dig in to, but well worth it. I guess that each person would approach this very differently. 

For example, CS people go mad at the thought the html-css-javascript-php-mysql is so many people&#039;s first (and in most cases only) &quot;language.&quot; They would probably try to get newcomers to spend 6 months on some non web language. That way you are learning &#039;to program&#039; not to &#039;make sites.&#039; It is also probably a much more direct route to the abstract theories of computer science. 

I like that your approach is &#039;get a site up &amp; make money with it. Learn along the way.&#039; 

I think there is another path to take. This one includes absolutely no prior knowledge, not even above average web-savy. Still requires drive &amp; desire to learn: Hosted Platforms. Hosted Platforms means software that is managed by some company the isn&#039;t you. This includes things like webmail (gmail, hotmail etc.). It also includes software for making sites. A lot of it is intended for non-professionals. You can use hosted software to make most common types of sites.


One way is to start an online shop. Nevblog has an case study post about starting a real online business. You can do this without even knowing how to spell html:
http://www.nevblog.com/2007/12/house-of-rave-com-story-part-1.html

If you want to get a site up today, after work, during ad breaks, Weebly is definitely worth looking at. You can launch a site free (you&#039;ll probably want to buy a domain name though) very easily. You are constrained with what you can do with it, but that might be good for a first site. You also have a lot of options. You can for example, add a basic paypal shop.

What I like about this option is that it lets people jump right in as easily as possible and will encourage them to learn. If you play around with weebly, you will probably become a sophisticate we user very fast. YOu will learn about embedding or domain names pretty fast. Then, when you are ready to try out tweaking css &amp; html, you can do so very easily. It will also present you with good reasons to want to tweak the code. You might want to change your site design a little, for example. 
http://www.weebly.com/

Hosted platforms are just another way to get to the same place. To really be able to implement any idea you have for a site, you will probably need to know html-css-javascript-php-mysql-ajax eventually. It is just a question of where you start. Most important is to start somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adam,</p>
<p>Interesting read. I enjoyed it. I bookmarked several links and installed Measureit. Very useful. (I would also add <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/271" rel="nofollow">colorzilla</a> to the list. Amazing how you always get some useful bits from articles like this. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tricky subject you dig in to, but well worth it. I guess that each person would approach this very differently. </p>
<p>For example, CS people go mad at the thought the html-css-javascript-php-mysql is so many people&#8217;s first (and in most cases only) &#8220;language.&#8221; They would probably try to get newcomers to spend 6 months on some non web language. That way you are learning &#8216;to program&#8217; not to &#8216;make sites.&#8217; It is also probably a much more direct route to the abstract theories of computer science. </p>
<p>I like that your approach is &#8216;get a site up &amp; make money with it. Learn along the way.&#8217; </p>
<p>I think there is another path to take. This one includes absolutely no prior knowledge, not even above average web-savy. Still requires drive &amp; desire to learn: Hosted Platforms. Hosted Platforms means software that is managed by some company the isn&#8217;t you. This includes things like webmail (gmail, hotmail etc.). It also includes software for making sites. A lot of it is intended for non-professionals. You can use hosted software to make most common types of sites.</p>
<p>One way is to start an online shop. Nevblog has an case study post about starting a real online business. You can do this without even knowing how to spell html:<br />
<a href="http://www.nevblog.com/2007/12/house-of-rave-com-story-part-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nevblog.com/2007/12/house-of-rave-com-story-part-1.html</a></p>
<p>If you want to get a site up today, after work, during ad breaks, Weebly is definitely worth looking at. You can launch a site free (you&#8217;ll probably want to buy a domain name though) very easily. You are constrained with what you can do with it, but that might be good for a first site. You also have a lot of options. You can for example, add a basic paypal shop.</p>
<p>What I like about this option is that it lets people jump right in as easily as possible and will encourage them to learn. If you play around with weebly, you will probably become a sophisticate we user very fast. YOu will learn about embedding or domain names pretty fast. Then, when you are ready to try out tweaking css &amp; html, you can do so very easily. It will also present you with good reasons to want to tweak the code. You might want to change your site design a little, for example.<br />
<a href="http://www.weebly.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.weebly.com/</a></p>
<p>Hosted platforms are just another way to get to the same place. To really be able to implement any idea you have for a site, you will probably need to know html-css-javascript-php-mysql-ajax eventually. It is just a question of where you start. Most important is to start somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/11/03/so-you-want-to-learn-how-to-program/comment-page-1/#comment-3736</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Jimmy.  This is totally meant for an aspiring web entrepreneur. There are a lot more powerful languages out there for applications that are reliant on more than a web app.  I have a little experience in Visual Basic and C++ (a few classes in college), but not much more.  Maybe something I&#039;ll get into in the future :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Jimmy.  This is totally meant for an aspiring web entrepreneur. There are a lot more powerful languages out there for applications that are reliant on more than a web app.  I have a little experience in Visual Basic and C++ (a few classes in college), but not much more.  Maybe something I&#8217;ll get into in the future <img src='http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adam,

It is a pretty good starting point.  Also keep in mind that programming in general can be outside the &quot;website&quot; or &quot;web app&quot; area.  I&#039;ve seen many people who like to learn programming but not necessary interested into building a website.  For them, there are many more categories out there that they can choose.  These include business applications for specific puposes, scientific-related like mathematics and algorithms, operation-related like B2B communication, transaction-related like financial systems, etc.  Just my 2 cents.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adam,</p>
<p>It is a pretty good starting point.  Also keep in mind that programming in general can be outside the &#8220;website&#8221; or &#8220;web app&#8221; area.  I&#8217;ve seen many people who like to learn programming but not necessary interested into building a website.  For them, there are many more categories out there that they can choose.  These include business applications for specific puposes, scientific-related like mathematics and algorithms, operation-related like B2B communication, transaction-related like financial systems, etc.  Just my 2 cents.  <img src='http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott Messner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Messner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, great essay Adam! I&#039;m looking forward to trying MockFlow. I too register all my domains at GoDaddy. One tip is to Google for Godaddy coupon codes. There is almost always a current one for 25% off .com registrations. I realize it&#039;s only a $2.50 savings but $2.50 is $2.50 when you&#039;re bootstrapping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, great essay Adam! I&#8217;m looking forward to trying MockFlow. I too register all my domains at GoDaddy. One tip is to Google for Godaddy coupon codes. There is almost always a current one for 25% off .com registrations. I realize it&#8217;s only a $2.50 savings but $2.50 is $2.50 when you&#8217;re bootstrapping.</p>
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