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		<title>By: nethy</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/08/30/new-detailed-image-home-page/comment-page-1/#comment-3251</link>
		<dc:creator>nethy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avinash is great. 

Here is one of the posts I really like. It kind of gives a good concise example of his approach: http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/2007/11/blog-metrics-six-recommendations-for-measuring-your-success.html

He also has a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avinash is great. </p>
<p>Here is one of the posts I really like. It kind of gives a good concise example of his approach: <a href="http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/2007/11/blog-metrics-six-recommendations-for-measuring-your-success.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/2007/11/blog-metrics-six-recommendations-for-measuring-your-success.html</a></p>
<p>He also has a book.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/08/30/new-detailed-image-home-page/comment-page-1/#comment-3250</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And there are pics of cars in the guides, and on the product pages.  It&#039;s something we made a point of getting more of when we re-launched the site.  We don&#039;t want to be obnoxious with it, but - to your pt - there weren&#039;t many cars on the old site and that was a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And there are pics of cars in the guides, and on the product pages.  It&#8217;s something we made a point of getting more of when we re-launched the site.  We don&#8217;t want to be obnoxious with it, but &#8211; to your pt &#8211; there weren&#8217;t many cars on the old site and that was a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/08/30/new-detailed-image-home-page/comment-page-1/#comment-3249</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an exotic car on every single page in the background on the lower left.  Changes each time you refresh the page :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an exotic car on every single page in the background on the lower left.  Changes each time you refresh the page <img src='http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Neville</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/08/30/new-detailed-image-home-page/comment-page-1/#comment-3248</link>
		<dc:creator>Neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh thank god...there&#039;s finally pictures of CARS on the site!  

A good friend of mine who does this kind of optimization for a living at Google said:

&quot;I put the laptop on my desk, load the web page, stand 10 feet back....and if I can&#039;t tell what I&#039;m supposed to do, I&#039;ve failed.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh thank god&#8230;there&#8217;s finally pictures of CARS on the site!  </p>
<p>A good friend of mine who does this kind of optimization for a living at Google said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I put the laptop on my desk, load the web page, stand 10 feet back&#8230;.and if I can&#8217;t tell what I&#8217;m supposed to do, I&#8217;ve failed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/08/30/new-detailed-image-home-page/comment-page-1/#comment-3247</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nethy - thanks for that blog.  Now in my feed reader :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nethy &#8211; thanks for that blog.  Now in my feed reader <img src='http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nethy, thanks for the link. I stumbled on this one while looking at something totally unrelated though! http://fivesecondtest.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nethy, thanks for the link. I stumbled on this one while looking at something totally unrelated though! <a href="http://fivesecondtest.com/" rel="nofollow">http://fivesecondtest.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: nethy</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/08/30/new-detailed-image-home-page/comment-page-1/#comment-3244</link>
		<dc:creator>nethy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob &amp; Adam,

Here is something along those lines that might help. It&#039;s basically just a front end for the mechanical turk that does split testing. The idea easy, non-scientific market research. Basically an online equivalent of asking a bunch of people in a cafe a question. 

You might be able to use it for a similar purpose to that 7 second test, but it&#039;s not built for that. 

http://pickfu.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob &amp; Adam,</p>
<p>Here is something along those lines that might help. It&#8217;s basically just a front end for the mechanical turk that does split testing. The idea easy, non-scientific market research. Basically an online equivalent of asking a bunch of people in a cafe a question. </p>
<p>You might be able to use it for a similar purpose to that 7 second test, but it&#8217;s not built for that. </p>
<p><a href="http://pickfu.com/" rel="nofollow">http://pickfu.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: nethy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nethy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oke, 

I&#039;m not sure how to answer that. I suppose the options are: pay, learn or do without. 

pay - You can always hire someone. If your problem is making something look nice, you can get design services at every price range. You can have pages mocked up in photo shop at very low prices. You can have themes for popular CMSs applied fairly cheaply too. If what you want is help with usability, help can be pretty pricey.

Learning by doing is also always an option. If you are interested in anaylitics &amp; usability, I suggest you start reading this blog: http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/ . Improve by making small changes. Split test, etc. Some people are brilliant designers, &amp; they put all their faith in design. Some people love analytics (read that blog), &amp; they want stats to tell them exactly what to do. Some people came to this field from a software development/usability angle. Everyone ends up learning from a different angle, so it is hard to tell you exactly how to go about learning.

Doing without is not necessarily a terrible option. Google suck at design. They are great at software. They actually do without design as much as they can. They compensate with other stuff like speed &amp; simplicity to make things usable. They can do this by not trying to design. Everything is very simple: Google Reader, Search, Gmail, docs... It is all substantially simpler then most anything else. They just avoid designing. 

*Sometimes it doesn&#039;t work. Noone wants a Google Sites site as their company website. Not even as a personal homepage. The design sucks. 

That&#039;s my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oke, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how to answer that. I suppose the options are: pay, learn or do without. </p>
<p>pay &#8211; You can always hire someone. If your problem is making something look nice, you can get design services at every price range. You can have pages mocked up in photo shop at very low prices. You can have themes for popular CMSs applied fairly cheaply too. If what you want is help with usability, help can be pretty pricey.</p>
<p>Learning by doing is also always an option. If you are interested in anaylitics &amp; usability, I suggest you start reading this blog: <a href="http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/</a> . Improve by making small changes. Split test, etc. Some people are brilliant designers, &amp; they put all their faith in design. Some people love analytics (read that blog), &amp; they want stats to tell them exactly what to do. Some people came to this field from a software development/usability angle. Everyone ends up learning from a different angle, so it is hard to tell you exactly how to go about learning.</p>
<p>Doing without is not necessarily a terrible option. Google suck at design. They are great at software. They actually do without design as much as they can. They compensate with other stuff like speed &amp; simplicity to make things usable. They can do this by not trying to design. Everything is very simple: Google Reader, Search, Gmail, docs&#8230; It is all substantially simpler then most anything else. They just avoid designing. </p>
<p>*Sometimes it doesn&#8217;t work. Noone wants a Google Sites site as their company website. Not even as a personal homepage. The design sucks. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/08/30/new-detailed-image-home-page/comment-page-1/#comment-3242</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s two problems with that test as far as I can see.... 1, it&#039;s really critical of load times - I can&#039;t tell if this is a good thing or not, but I don&#039;t think the majority of sites out there are completely loaded in 7 seconds. This could be addressed by precaching the site in the background and then revealing it (ie a popup that masks it and then goes away) but speed is obviously a factor that applies in real life when trying to get conversions on your site so perhaps the test should be left as is...

The second issue is that it really needs to be completed by people unfamiliar with your site, and they&#039;re not going to be the easiest target audience to reach, unless you make it some sort of collaborative thing - ie. you have to review 10 other sites before you can submit your own, or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s two problems with that test as far as I can see&#8230;. 1, it&#8217;s really critical of load times &#8211; I can&#8217;t tell if this is a good thing or not, but I don&#8217;t think the majority of sites out there are completely loaded in 7 seconds. This could be addressed by precaching the site in the background and then revealing it (ie a popup that masks it and then goes away) but speed is obviously a factor that applies in real life when trying to get conversions on your site so perhaps the test should be left as is&#8230;</p>
<p>The second issue is that it really needs to be completed by people unfamiliar with your site, and they&#8217;re not going to be the easiest target audience to reach, unless you make it some sort of collaborative thing &#8211; ie. you have to review 10 other sites before you can submit your own, or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool Rob.  Definitely don&#039;t mind you (or anyone else) linking to any site so long as it&#039;s relevant to the conversation.  I just tried it out.  That would be a great idea for any website...anyone know of a more advanced version?  If not, it&#039;ll go on my &quot;long term to-do list&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool Rob.  Definitely don&#8217;t mind you (or anyone else) linking to any site so long as it&#8217;s relevant to the conversation.  I just tried it out.  That would be a great idea for any website&#8230;anyone know of a more advanced version?  If not, it&#8217;ll go on my &#8220;long term to-do list&#8221; <img src='http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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