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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/07/15/misc-entrepreneurship-ramblings/comment-page-1/#comment-2993</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.photobox.com, a popular photo printing company in the UK and Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.photobox.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.photobox.com</a>, a popular photo printing company in the UK and Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: The Manager &#8211; Programmer Disconnect &#124; Adam McFarland</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/07/15/misc-entrepreneurship-ramblings/comment-page-1/#comment-2992</link>
		<dc:creator>The Manager &#8211; Programmer Disconnect &#124; Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] left an interesting comment the other day in regards to a potential new feature I mentioned: I’m always impressed with how [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/07/15/misc-entrepreneurship-ramblings/comment-page-1/#comment-2991</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Rob, that&#039;s really cool.  What site was it from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Rob, that&#8217;s really cool.  What site was it from?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/07/15/misc-entrepreneurship-ramblings/comment-page-1/#comment-2990</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam - regarding your customers complaining about you being too fast... I ordered something just now and saw this message come up after I pressed checkout - I something similar might help you out...

&quot;Your order has been successfully placed and will be confirmed by email shortly. If you would like to amend any aspect of your order, you can do so within 30 minutes. After 30 minutes, your order will be processed and can no longer be amended or cancelled.

Please note: When ordering several items they may arrive separately to give you the fastest service. This won&#039;t cost you any more.

Do you want to send the same order to someone else?&quot;

--Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam &#8211; regarding your customers complaining about you being too fast&#8230; I ordered something just now and saw this message come up after I pressed checkout &#8211; I something similar might help you out&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Your order has been successfully placed and will be confirmed by email shortly. If you would like to amend any aspect of your order, you can do so within 30 minutes. After 30 minutes, your order will be processed and can no longer be amended or cancelled.</p>
<p>Please note: When ordering several items they may arrive separately to give you the fastest service. This won&#8217;t cost you any more.</p>
<p>Do you want to send the same order to someone else?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/07/15/misc-entrepreneurship-ramblings/comment-page-1/#comment-2962</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nethy - thanks for the kind words.  As always, you&#039;re thinking :)

The PayPal Payments Pro API does let us cancel the transaction and refund the customer (&lt;a href=&quot;https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&amp;content_ID=developer/e_howto_api_WPOtherAPIOps&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see here&lt;/a&gt;), so I *think* we&#039;ll be able to do it.  Putting it back in inventory is pretty simple based on how we have things set up.    

Your second point about communication is really interesting. That will be my next post I think... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nethy &#8211; thanks for the kind words.  As always, you&#8217;re thinking <img src='http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The PayPal Payments Pro API does let us cancel the transaction and refund the customer (<a href="https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&#038;content_ID=developer/e_howto_api_WPOtherAPIOps" rel="nofollow">see here</a>), so I *think* we&#8217;ll be able to do it.  Putting it back in inventory is pretty simple based on how we have things set up.    </p>
<p>Your second point about communication is really interesting. That will be my next post I think&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nethy</title>
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		<dc:creator>nethy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

Being in the biz, my immediate instinct upon hearing something like this is to start designing it in my head.

When an order is cancelled, it needs to go back into the inventory. Then the money needs to be refunded. I don&#039;t know of that facility in any existing shopping cart software. Come to think of it, I&#039;m not sure that payment gateways have the facility (via API) to send money back automatically. Maybe you system should verify the card and only charge once you print the order, you will avoid fees that way. Will that introduce any additional problems? Failed payments that the customer doesn&#039;t know about? Will people mind delayed invoices? At what stage is it impossible to cancel? Probably once the order is printed. That means you need to print/pull orders just in time, otherwise you needlessly shorten the cancellation window.... 

Whew! This is getting complicated. You need to add stages to the order processing workflow. You need to have your warehouse workflows cooperate. You need to have the payment gateway cooperate.. You need to keep things simple for the client.

I&#039;m always impressed with how your processes. Having a system like this that works properly needs:
a) the programming doing the work and
b) someone to plan the process. 

That&#039;s something that&#039;s very hard to do on a small business budget. It&#039;s something that&#039;s hard to do via consulting, for example. For a competitor, they might think &quot;Adam blogged that he took 1 week to do this. 40 hours. I can get that done for $4000 (or $400 on elance) by a consultant.&quot; They can&#039;t. The communication between programmer &amp; business owner isn&#039;t simple.

I would be very surprised if your competition had your combination of low-tech &amp; high-tech working together this well. The upshot is that they just won&#039;t such smooth systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>Being in the biz, my immediate instinct upon hearing something like this is to start designing it in my head.</p>
<p>When an order is cancelled, it needs to go back into the inventory. Then the money needs to be refunded. I don&#8217;t know of that facility in any existing shopping cart software. Come to think of it, I&#8217;m not sure that payment gateways have the facility (via API) to send money back automatically. Maybe you system should verify the card and only charge once you print the order, you will avoid fees that way. Will that introduce any additional problems? Failed payments that the customer doesn&#8217;t know about? Will people mind delayed invoices? At what stage is it impossible to cancel? Probably once the order is printed. That means you need to print/pull orders just in time, otherwise you needlessly shorten the cancellation window&#8230;. </p>
<p>Whew! This is getting complicated. You need to add stages to the order processing workflow. You need to have your warehouse workflows cooperate. You need to have the payment gateway cooperate.. You need to keep things simple for the client.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always impressed with how your processes. Having a system like this that works properly needs:<br />
a) the programming doing the work and<br />
b) someone to plan the process. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s something that&#8217;s very hard to do on a small business budget. It&#8217;s something that&#8217;s hard to do via consulting, for example. For a competitor, they might think &#8220;Adam blogged that he took 1 week to do this. 40 hours. I can get that done for $4000 (or $400 on elance) by a consultant.&#8221; They can&#8217;t. The communication between programmer &amp; business owner isn&#8217;t simple.</p>
<p>I would be very surprised if your competition had your combination of low-tech &amp; high-tech working together this well. The upshot is that they just won&#8217;t such smooth systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam McFarland</title>
		<link>http://www.adam-mcfarland.net/2009/07/15/misc-entrepreneurship-ramblings/comment-page-1/#comment-2960</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam McFarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oke - It is a pretty common thing.  I think our plan long term is to implement a system like Amazon has where it gives the user the option to add to or cancel their order before shipping, being very clear how much time they have to do so.  Hopefully that will really cut into the inquiries/complaints that we get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oke &#8211; It is a pretty common thing.  I think our plan long term is to implement a system like Amazon has where it gives the user the option to add to or cancel their order before shipping, being very clear how much time they have to do so.  Hopefully that will really cut into the inquiries/complaints that we get.</p>
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		<title>By: Oke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

The suggestion about leaving the order on file for a couple of days isn&#039;t a bad idea (although, the language you used would be classic). It is just another option for those type of people. I would only do it if there is a significant amount of complaints and it is trouble for yall to deal with those type of clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>The suggestion about leaving the order on file for a couple of days isn&#8217;t a bad idea (although, the language you used would be classic). It is just another option for those type of people. I would only do it if there is a significant amount of complaints and it is trouble for yall to deal with those type of clients.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the comments about raw work over intelligence. Its so true that even people who didn&#039;t get high grades in school can be the most successful in life. It&#039;s about the effort and heart they put into what they do. Hard work and persistence will come out on top 9 times outa 10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the comments about raw work over intelligence. Its so true that even people who didn&#8217;t get high grades in school can be the most successful in life. It&#8217;s about the effort and heart they put into what they do. Hard work and persistence will come out on top 9 times outa 10.</p>
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